MIDTOWN, Manhattan (WABC) -- St. Patrick's Cathedral is both a spiritual and inspirational place for sculptor Carolyn Palmer. "I was always walking around looking at the sculptures," she said. Thomas Jefferson, Mario Cuomo and Lucille Ball are some of Palmer's commissions, and then came a holy one -- four popes, whose busts she sculpted at her home in Saddle River, New Jersey. "Any piece I do in my studio takes on a certain life to them," she said.